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		<title>From MS Exchange to Google Apps, a breath of fresh air</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 06:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recently the company I work for has decided to make the move from an internally hosted Microsoft Exchange solution to a Google Apps hosted answer, and I couldn&#8217;t be happier. On a Mac, the Entourage client wasn&#8217;t entirely bad. But it did hog memory, disk space and processor and require at least one hard quit [...]
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently the company I work for has decided to make the move from an internally hosted <a class="zem_slink" title="Microsoft" rel="homepage" href="http://www.microsoft.com">Microsoft</a> Exchange solution to a <a class="zem_slink" title="Google" rel="homepage" href="http://google.com">Google</a> Apps hosted answer, and I couldn&#8217;t be happier.  On a Mac, the Entourage client wasn&#8217;t entirely bad. But it did hog memory, disk space and processor and require at least one hard quit each and every day. Other than that it was just fine.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been a long time fan of GMail, and I have tried a bunch of the other &#8216;major players&#8217; in the email game over the years: Netscape, <a class="zem_slink" title="Yahoo!" rel="homepage" href="http://www.yahoo.com">Yahoo</a>, .Mac, <a class="zem_slink" title="Hotmail" rel="homepage" href="http://www.hotmail.com">Hotmail</a> and every silly @provider.com webmail account that they give you with your inet subscription. Those last have all been universally hideous pits where nothing but spam goes to die, BTW.  GMail in general kicks them all. Put it together with Firefox and some of the excellent available extensions and you see where web apps can really shine. Enough touchy feely stuff, what I needed to know this week was how Google Apps could replace some of the key features I depended on from Exchange, and here&#8217;s what I came up with.</p>
<h2>Feature Comparison</h2>
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<th>Feature</th>
<th>Exchange</th>
<th>Google Apps</th>
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<td>Organize content</td>
<td>Folders</td>
<td>Labels, a superior alternative to folders in every way</td>
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<tr>
<td>Route incoming content</td>
<td>Mail Rules applied to incoming email</td>
<td>Filters to label and archive incoming emails</td>
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<tr>
<td>Search</td>
<td>Form style criteria, simple and advanced</td>
<td>Full text natural search and advanced syntax options &#8211; nobody beats Google for search</td>
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<tr>
<td>Conversations</td>
<td>Replies only</td>
<td>Nested &#8216;natural&#8217; conversations &#8211; really shines for things like Crucible reviews or Wiki commentary</td>
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<tr>
<td>Startup time</td>
<td>60 seconds +</td>
<td>Under 10 seconds</td>
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<tr>
<td>Tasks</td>
<td>Good support, &#8216;My Day&#8217; app kind of annoying</td>
<td>Good support, but UI components were more than little ugly and overlaid other view components on initial try</td>
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<tr>
<td>Document support</td>
<td>Download attachments to disk</td>
<td>Online edit or view of all common document formats, including ability to share editing live</td>
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<tr>
<td>Storage capacity</td>
<td>Regulated by <a class="zem_slink" title="Microsoft Exchange Server" rel="homepage" href="http://www.microsoft.com/exchange">Exchange server</a>(less than a couple of GB is a guess in our particular deployment)</td>
<td>25 GB</td>
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<tr>
<td>Offline capability</td>
<td>Never noticed a problem working offline. Then again I&#8217;m hardly ever offline.</td>
<td>Gears, works for the majority if not all of Google Apps</td>
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<td>Personalization</td>
<td>None?</td>
<td>Themes, browser adds-ons(Bless you LifeHacker!), lots of available configurability</td>
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<td>Messaging</td>
<td>None</td>
<td>Browser based, jabber compatible &#8211; which means <a class="zem_slink" title="IChat" rel="homepage" href="http://www.apple.com/macosx/what-is-macosx/ichat.html">iChat</a> compatible</td>
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<td>Audio chat</td>
<td>None</td>
<td>Browser based, seamless and good quality with Macbook Pro built in speaker/mic</td>
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<td>Video chat</td>
<td>None</td>
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<td>Browser based, seamless and good quality with Macbook Pro built in speaker/mic/iSight</td>
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<td>Webclient</td>
<td>Yes. Abysmal without any effective search capability</td>
<td>First and foremost</td>
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<tr>
<td>Thick client</td>
<td>Entourage, other clients available but less effective in my experience</td>
<td>Lots, Mail.app preferred IMO</td>
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<tr>
<td>Mobile</td>
<td>Never once had a problem using <a class="zem_slink" title="iPhone" rel="homepage" href="http://www.apple.com/iphone">iPhone</a> with exchange</td>
<td>iPhone Google app covers the spectrum, Mail application integrates pretty seamlessly</td>
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<p>OK, so I didn&#8217;t make a huge secret out of it with the blog title where I stand on this faceoff, but having managed to achieve in a few hours what it took me days and lots of Googling(irony intended) to do with Entourage is pretty compelling. I was able to transfer content, establish essentially the same organizational structure, and replace each and every Entourage/Exchange feature I care about with less than two hours of fiddling. Google <a class="zem_slink" title="Google Labs" rel="homepage" href="http://labs.google.com/">Labs</a>, Firefox extensions and just the general &#8220;hugeness&#8221; of the Google community promise me far better access to updates and enhancements than I could ever hope to get (at least for free) from the Microsoft alternative.</p>
<p>I will not say for one minute that Entourage and Exchange did not work for me. They did what they were meant to do, and in a lot of cases(especially on the iPhone) they did it very well. But even in just a pure browser environment, where a lot of the UI &#8220;bling&#8221; still doesn&#8217;t keep pace with a competing desktop application, the general functionality and usability of Google Apps just plain outshines Entourage &#8211; and a lot of other <a class="zem_slink" title="E-mail client" rel="wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-mail_client">email clients</a> as well. Exchange server VS Google for mail &#8211; well the one is only as good as the machine you host it on, and is subject to any availability problems that machine might have. Google is pretty much good everywhere, anytime.</p>
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		<title>Mac and Windows are fighting over my Contacts and Calendar</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 17:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>TheKaptain</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the truly stellar features in Mac OS X Leopard is the &#8216;sync&#8217; of information between computers. I use multiple computers in different locations and having the ability to access a common Address Book, iCal, etc is invaluable. In particular, when I bought a new Macbook Pro not so long ago, the sync allowed [...]
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the truly stellar features in <a class="zem_slink" href="http://www.apple.com/macosx/" title="Mac OS X" rel="homepage">Mac OS X</a> <a class="zem_slink" href="http://www.apple.com/macosx/" title="Mac OS X v10.5" rel="homepage">Leopard</a> is the &#8216;sync&#8217; of information between computers. I use multiple computers in different locations and having the ability to access a common <a class="zem_slink" href="http://www.apple.com/macosx/what-is-macosx/mail-ical-address-book.html" title="Address Book (application)" rel="homepage">Address Book</a>, <a class="zem_slink" href="http://www.apple.com/support/ical/" title="ICal" rel="homepage">iCal</a>, etc is invaluable. </p>
<p>In particular, when I bought a new Macbook Pro not so long ago, the sync allowed me to turn on the laptop, plug in an ethernet cable and enter my <a class="zem_slink" href="http://www.apple.com/mobileme/" title="MobileMe" rel="homepage">MobileMe</a> identity &#8211; and that was it. When the sync was done, I immediately had access to my wireless network at home (KeyChain passwords sync&#8217;d seamlessly) &#8211; no trying to find, copy down and manually transfer my encryption key! That in particular is handy since I have over a dozen wireless network configurations stored.</p>
<p>Another nice to have, since my employer uses an Outlook system for email, was the Entourage sync. Or at least it would be if the damn thing didn&#8217;t keep duplicating all of my calendar entries and contacts! When I noticed it the first time I said to myself : &#8220;not perfect, but I can live with it for the convenience it provides&#8221;. By the time I started getting calendar events showing up on my <a class="zem_slink" href="http://www.apple.com/iphone" title="iPhone" rel="homepage">iPhone</a> for the fourth time, I said enough was enough and went Googling.</p>
<p>Starting with <a href="http://www.entourage.mvps.org/faq_topic/sync_services.html#blame">this article on the Entourage support page</a>, I ended up reading <a href="http://www.macworld.com/article/137853/2009/01/entourageduplicates.html">this over on MacWorld</a>, which brought me to the <a href="http://www.nhoj.co.uk/icaldupedeleter/">iCal Dupe Deleter</a>. That took care of the iCal problem in under 20 minutes with less than 10 button clicks. Not bad &#8211; tnx to the creator of that software John Maisey, it worked fast, correctly and exactly as advertised.<br />
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<p>I haven&#8217;t yet done the same for the iPhone, but it looks like <a class="zem_slink" href="http://www.apple.com/itunes/" title="ITunes" rel="homepage">iTunes</a> supports a sync option to just replace the info on the phone and start anew, so I anticipate no problems.</p>
<p>Seeing as how it appears that neither <a class="zem_slink" href="http://www.microsoft.com" title="Microsoft" rel="homepage">Microsoft</a> or <a class="zem_slink" href="http://www.apple.com" title="Apple" rel="homepage">Apple</a> have anything planned to address this obvious problem in the software interaction(strange that those two don&#8217;t see eye to eye), it&#8217;s fantastic that the community out there in intarweb land is so great at sharing ways to address it. So let Mac and Windows fight over my stuff, I still win. Nyah nyah!</p>
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